Many of our emails are bouncing due to blacklisting of Marketo's email address

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

We employ many email best practices to ensure our deliverability is as effective as possible.  In fact, we just recently deployed Informatica’s email validation/verification service.  Just before an email went out this morning we validated every email address against this service.  We then pruned all emails with a bad/suspect status code. Yet, when we sent the email, almost 10% bounced (over 650).  After looking at a random sample of bounce reasons in the activity log, it appears our email address – or more specifically, Marketo’s mktomail.com domain – is being blacklisted with several of our contacts:

We're even on the preferred range of IP addresses.  I've opened a ticket with Support, hoping that they'll route this to the deliverability team.  Have any of you experienced a large volume of these, and if so, did that team help un-blacklist you?

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Hey Franklin - We had a similar issue when we first transitioned over to Marketo last year. We partnered with the Marketo Deliverability team and they were able to resolve all of our challenges. Tifaine Highly on the deliverability team is amazing. We now have quarterly check-ins just to confirm that there's nothing fishy going on.

Anonymous
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We have been seeing great deliverability to our customers until this weekend. We have two dedicated IP addresses and for some reason this happened to us. We have been seeing 97%+ delivered to yesterday's 65%. It's ridiculous. Have you made any progress?

Steven_Vanderb3
Marketo Employee

Hey Franklin, we'll take a look so go ahead and submit a ticket.

Anonymous
Not applicable

Hi Dan

I too have just experienced the same issues, and getting the same notification message as you. I will raise a ticket. Does anyone know if we can identify when and why the email address was blacklisted - is there a log?

thanks

Gary

Sarah_Hare
Level 2

Sounds like the same thing I have experienced also with the same error message from Symantec. Asking our top clients to whitelist Marketo ips is not a real solution.

Rodolfo Yiu​  we are in the same boat - frustrating!

Grégoire_Miche2
Level 10

Subscribing to a service such as MXToolbox blacklist alerts might be useful

-Greg

Josh_Hill13
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

250ok seems to have a nice automation for this tracking.

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

It looks like Marketo is a customer of 250ok. I wonder if this is a white labeled solution that Marketo packages with their deliverability offering.

Customer Success | 250ok

Josh_Hill13
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

it is.

SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

It is.

Anonymous
Not applicable

I have the exact Symantec error message from 2 out of my top 5 client email domains. Support was not able to help me and asked me to ask my clients (which are publicly listed companies) to whitelist Marketo. Support also shared that moving to Trusted IP or Dedicated IP will not help the issue.

Pretty frustrated that we cannot send marketing emails to my 2 clients.

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

That's a pretty unrealistic request - especially for large public companies.  If anything, ask them to "whitelist DKIM-signed messages from a specific domain" - per Sanford Whiteman​'s comment here: Re: Instructions for customers on how to whitelist Marketo

Here's another thread regarding some of our email issues with our top clients: Re: Marketo emails showing up as BULK - with no ability to show images

Josh_Hill13
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

If you fill out the form or work with the Privacy team on automating your processes, it can help.

But this may  not have been caused by you...if you are using a shared IP. Some things to note:

  • purchased lists will have a higher bounce rate
  • older leads will bounce higher if you haven't been working them.
  • Informatica isn't perfect and it's possible to bounce. How strict were you with their codes?
  • are you  invalidating bounced leads earlier?
Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

I just learned from Support that we're on the Shared IP range.  We were placed on the Trusted range back in August 2015 - no one ever told us that we moved back to the shared range (which is also concerning since we have specific clients where we have given them the trusted IP range of addresses to ensure our emails get delivered to them).  I'm further investigating this.

We've suppressed the following Informatica status codes:

  • 250 (Email Valid, Potentially Dangerous)
  • 260 (Domain Confirmed, Potentially Dangerous)
  • 270 (Analytics in Progress, Potentially Dangerous)
  • 300 (Email Not Valid)
  • 310 (Not Verified)
  • 400 (Invalid Input)
  • 500 (Internal Error)

As for invalidating earlier bounced leads, yes, in fact we're using the approach that's well-documented in your Rockstar Guide!

Josh_Hill13
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

There are a few other codes that you may want to remove. We only sent when we had 200, 210. But if you are sending internationally, you have to be less restrictive.

Marketo does tend to shift people around on a Shared spectrum: bad people, ok people, trusted

and you have to ask.

Grégoire_Miche2
Level 10

Hi Dan,

You may want to involve Kiersti Esparza in this thread She is Marketo's Director, Email Privacy and Deliverability

-Greg

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

Thanks Greg.  Kiersti Esparza, any thoughts?