Re: Marketo emails showing up as BULK - with no ability to show images

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

We've identified yet another client of ours who filter all Marketo emails as follows:

  • When the email is sent, the words [BULK] are appended to the subject line
  • Images are blocked
  • When the user clicks the "click here" link to unblock all features (like images), the images remain broken/non-viewable.

Other than asking the client to whitelist our IP range (which hasn't worked with prior clients who have done this for us), is there anything we can do?  We already have our SPF/DKIM setup properly, use branded tracking links, and send from our company's domain.

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SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

From the screenshot, it looks like an intermediate server/service is changing the image src. I say this because OWA does not appear to be aware that clicking to enable images will have no effect. If you could get on a machine where this is happening it would be easy to see where those URLs are being rewritten to, and presumably figure out which software is making the change.

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

How do you view the source code of an email in OWA?  When I click "view message details", it just provides the email header details and a bunch of encrypted code.  In the Outlook desktop client, it's viewed here:

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SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

I think in OWA without extensions the best you have is view-source (that is, browser view-source).

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

I started to look at the source and noticed in the email header that DKIM is signed by mktosender.com.  Shouldn't this be our domain?

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SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

I started to look at the source and noticed in the email header that DKIM is signed by mktosender.com. Shouldn't this be our domain?

Certainly if you are publishing the DKIM pubkey on your domain then it should be using your domain. I think they've been mixing things up lately, but luckily it hasn't affected my "legacy" instances.

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

Should I raise this issue with Marketo or our own IT team?

Kiersti_Esparz1
Level 7

You may see two DKIM signatures.  One is your domain and the other is a Marketo domain.

If you don't see your domain also in a DKIM signature it may not be set up in the Marketo Admin console. 

That particular signature indicates that you are sending from a subset of Marketo's IPs reserved for low volume, highly-vetted customers.  I would definitely want to dig into these issues more keeping from a deliverability perspective. 

Kiersti Esparza
Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

Kiersti, see the screenshot above - those are the only DKIM signatures found in our header.  And yes, we have this configured in the Admin console:

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I just submitted a ticket with Support and asked them to have the Deliverability team take a look at this.

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

I received the following response from Support:

What the Deliverability team told me is that we are dual-signing DKIM now. Meaning that in the chance that the customer has not set up DKIM, we're signing for them anyway. Dual-signing is fine and it doesn't affect deliverability at all.

What I don't get is that we have indeed setup our DKIM - and even if this is dual-signed (and we have setup DKIM properly) - why is our domain not listed in the DKIM signature within the header?

Sanford Whiteman​, does this sound right?

SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

Your domain must appear in the header if it's signed by your domain. Otherwise it's being single-signed only.

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

I just sent myself another test email and now notice dual DKIM signatures - it appears it was just enabled a litte while ago:

DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1479161974;

    s=m1; d=avanade.com; i=@avanade.com;

    h=Date:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type;

DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1479161974;

    s=m1; d=mktosender.com; i=@mktosender.com;

    h=Date:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type;

Is there any risk in having this signed by both our domain and Marketo's - especially if recipient email servers block all Marketo emails?

SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

I'd add, too, that Marketo co-signing mail from trusted IPs (and not from untrusted IPs) is a good way to denote that those instances are at least somewhat policed/proper.

Whether "greater than zero trust" is enough to whitelist on in the real world is anothe matter.

SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

If you had a dedicated IP, which serves the purpose (to a degree) of obscuring the Marketo origins of your emails, then it could be questionable to opt back in to being Marketo-connected.

Otherwise, you'd be getting blocked by IP and/or envelope sender anyway, not by a 3rd-party DKIM signature.

Signing an email shows the recipient that there's someone taking end-to-end responsibility for the email content (as opposed to merely permitting the email server to use a sender domain, which is the best SPF can do). If the signer is the same as the From: address domain, that's considered a first-party or "author" signature -- the person who authored the content also signed it. That's the best use of DKIM.

If Marketo is throwing in a 3rd-party signature, that's not going to hurt anything unless the recipient blacklists or negatively weights by DKIM domain. That's pretty rare, but it can happen. DKIM is more often used for positive weighting. It's also a great tool for selective whitelisting because a recipient can say they allow emails that are *signed* and thus attributable to a given domain as opposed to emails that *claim* (via the forgeable From: or MAIL FROM:) to be from that domain.

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

Can anyone from Marketo's email deliverability team weigh in on this?

Kiersti Esparza

Kiersti_Esparz1
Level 7

Dan,

Please reach out through Support on this issue to have this looked at by the Deliverability Team.  There are a lot of reasons for bulk folder delivery that we would need to look into.

Delivery to the bulk folder is often driven by the reputation of the individual sender.  Our team would start with high level questions about how the sender is acquiring their leads and how are they maintaining their database. 

-Kiersti

Kiersti Esparza
Grégoire_Miche2
Level 10

HI Dan,

Is this a large or small company?

In other terms, is this a feature of their in-house emailing servers or something provided by a ISP of any kind?

-Greg

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

Hi Greg - It's a very large, global company.