Hi Joelle - I'm sharing this because it's been a topic of concern for some time now (especially in the B2B world). And to be honest, I don't think most users even know it's an issue. They see the positive metrics in their email dashboards and reports and just take it for granted that they are completely accurate. And that's not the case. Not for us and many others who have been active is a variety of related discussions here in the community. It's not Marketo's fault - although I welcome any innovative approach they may come up with to combat this). It's the nature of the business - that successfully making it into the user's inbox - especially when sending from a mass email platform like Marketo - is more challenging than ever (even though the "delivered" percentages say otherwise). And it's even more challenging for those of us that focus our campaigns using an account-centric/ABM approach (marketing to several contacts in the same account).
Here are some of the discussions I'm referring to:
How do you make your email deliverability unstoppable?
Re: False positive Email delivered?
Spam filters registering clicks?
Re: False positive on email click affecting lead scoring
Email Clicks on Delivery But No Matching Web Page Visits Logged
Email Bots Logging Web Activity - HELP
Email was clicked before it was delivered? It's a link scanner
Yeah, we've been dealing with this for a while, but in the last few weeks we've seen a huge spike in fake activity. Very annoying for us and Sales.
Wow, I just discovered this issue and feel a little out of touch for not seeing it much earlier.
In a world of nothing but bad choices, having the person potentially not attributed to a legit click is worse than overcounting clicks and click rates. For that, I will pull a report and understand our avg/median number of false clicks as a % and then manually apply that to reporting as the "estimated real clicks".
It makes me feel lied to over these past years and it will not look good on long term reporting when suddenly clicks are dropped by 20%. Because that is close to how many clicks we're seeing as not human.
This one will be hard to solve.
For Marketo Landing Pages:
Shouldn't you be able to do the following that involve Marketo landing pages as the main CTA that you're trying to see clicked?
To my understanding, email protection systems such as Barracuda and Proofpoint click links within your email during the first few minutes of launch (e.g., 1 minute or less), and they don't tend to actually visit the web page as they are only checking to see if said links are malicious. This is how I would go about setting this up if I am running a triggered program that will listen for anyone who clicked the link in the email AND Visited Web Page. Would this setup be correct?
For Website Links:
Email protection systems will click on the links, but not actually open the email. This is my thought, but someone please correct me if I am wrong. Would you be able do the following:
And then you would be able to write to a static list in the flow, I'm sure?
Now, another way that I'm thinking about is that I'm sure you could add a Date of Activity constraint to filter out spam clicks too (especially if you are wanting to see who clicked the email in a certain amount of time (e.g., 1 minute or less)). You could set up a Triggered campaign to run, and let's say your email goes out Today at 2 PM ET, you could set a reminder to yourself to monitor the campaign between 2:00 PM ET and 2:01 PM ET, and to turn off the triggered campaign after that and have it written to a list like above? Only thing different would be using the Date of Activity constraint in your smart list as such:
and then...
OR if you want to automate this process, here is what I would do....
hit Run Once
and have this scheduled to run 1 minute after your email launches...
Just some thoughts. Everything I said above may not be entirely the most accurate way, and if you personally think the time limit in the Date of Activity constraint should be adjusted, feel free to move up to 2 or 3 minutes, but usually these email protection systems click malicious links literally within minutes, and don't open the email nor visit your web pages. Only checking links if they are malicious or not.
Hope this helps! Happy Marketo.
Best,
Dillon
Hi Joelle, How can I tell if there's false positive clicks on my emails?
Hi Danielle -
Go to the activity log of any lead you suspect. If you see multiple "clicked link in email" all in a row and occurring within the same 60 seconds or so, you've probably got a false click. We figured this out when we were pinged on Super Bowl Sunday that a bunch of people wanted demos of our product right away. I'd love to believe that, but Super Bowl Sunday?? 😄
Ah okay!! I'd love to believe that too!!
Good thinking. I will check it out!
Thanks Joelle
Oh, hey, this is here! I tend to only post super-Marketo-related items on the Champions blog, so for more generalized things like this (and to hear from fabulous folks like Liz Medeiros and Alex Greger) you should check out https://www.demandlab.com/insights.
That said: the usual recommendation is for smaller instances to go ahead and do what Dan mentions--a trigger of "Visited Web Page" along with a filter of "Email Was Delivered" within a certain time period (usually 2-3 weeks) with a Program Status Change of "Clicked" or similar--but I like the idea of putting a wait step on just visiting the web page, waiting, and doing a delivery check for more active or larger instances.
Hey Courtney, coupla things:
stay tuned.
A glimpse of what I just started working on:
The above is a legitimate, human-driven Clicked Email event, distinguished from automated clicks on the same link by a special-purpose User-Agent ("TrueVoyage").