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Anurag
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List import creates duplicates

I imported a CSV with a single lead having two columns: Email and Company. I correctly mapped to the right email fields. But instead of updating the company name, it created a new lead, with the given company and other fields empty. I am not sure why this is happening as I have looked everywhere and found that Marketo automatically de-deduplicates upon import. I have ensured that de-duplication is activated at the beginning of the import. 

 

Could someone guess why this is happening? Or how I could fix it?

 

Thanks

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Anurag
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Re: List import creates duplicates

The "Notes" fields are empty.

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I think I know what is happening. I know that the leads dataset in Marketo has some emails that have multiple entries (duplicated). So when I import this list, one of the duplicates gets updated and the other doesn't. (Which leads me to falsely believe that the duplicate was created at the time of import.) I checked the creation dates for the duplicates, and both of them have the same date, some time a couple of years ago. So I am guessing that Marketo really isn't duplicating it during list import. But only updating one of the records instead of both. What do you think?

 

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SanfordWhiteman
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Re: List import creates duplicates

Please attach a sample CSV for which this is happening (you may of course use an Email Address mailbox@email.invalid and a dummy Company name, but please make sure this exact CSV shows the behavior when you upload it).

Anurag
Level 2

Re: List import creates duplicates

Thanks for your response. Here is the CSV file with some edits. 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wOyZIfvjJOOQ8caooOAG4f6M1paN19Iu/view?usp=sharing

SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

Re: List import creates duplicates

File looks fine at a byte level (no hidden control characters or anything). And importing it into one of my instances wasn't a problem.

 

Please show a screenshot of the field mapping page when you import.

Anurag
Level 2

Re: List import creates duplicates

The "Notes" fields are empty.

Anurag_0-1602206617056.png

 

I think I know what is happening. I know that the leads dataset in Marketo has some emails that have multiple entries (duplicated). So when I import this list, one of the duplicates gets updated and the other doesn't. (Which leads me to falsely believe that the duplicate was created at the time of import.) I checked the creation dates for the duplicates, and both of them have the same date, some time a couple of years ago. So I am guessing that Marketo really isn't duplicating it during list import. But only updating one of the records instead of both. What do you think?

 

SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

Re: List import creates duplicates

That makes perfect sense and is always a good thing to look for when an import appears to have gone awry.

Anurag
Level 2

Re: List import creates duplicates

Okay, great. Thank you so much and sorry for the misdiagnosis!!

 

But now I have another problem. How do I update the duplicate record that doesn't get updated by the list import?

SanfordWhiteman
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Re: List import creates duplicates


But now I have another problem. How do I update the duplicate record that doesn't get updated by the list import?


Well... you can't. Unless you use the API. Because an import will only ever update a single lead per row, and UI-based imports dedupe on the Email Address field. An API-based import can dedupe on ID (though you'd have to the different IDs in advance, which could be done with additional API work). A webhook-driven process could also update all leads with a matching email address, but wouldn't be advised in large quantities (let's say "large" = > 10,000 leads triggered at the same time).

Josh_Hill13
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

Re: List import creates duplicates

Marketo does dedupe by email address.

 

There are always flukes and scenarios where that might not occur.

 

How sure are you it created a dupe? Screenshots?

 

Do you use Lead Partitions or Workspaces?

 

Did anyone change the dedupe key on your instance?

Anurag
Level 2

Re: List import creates duplicates

I am new to Marketo but I am as sure as I can be. Since I also tried exporting the duplicates and the original and both of the emails are the same i.e. no white spaces, etc..

 

About your last two questions, I will get back if I am able to obtain answers for them. Thanks for your input.

 

When you say "There are always flukes and scenarios where that might not occur.",  do you mean that there is a chance that Marketo actually failed to duplicate, and made a mistake?