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Re: Is it possible to identify leads vs contacts in segmentations?

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Kerry-Cowell
Level 2

I'm building out our marketo segmentations and one useful one we wanted to created was segmenting our database into leads vs contacts and the the default would be all the records in Marketo that are not in SFDC.  Is this possible?  I can't a data field except maybe Record Type ID.  Is there a "begins with" option maybe to differentiate leads vs contacts? 

Kerry Cowell
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SanfordWhiteman
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OK, upon more investigation SFDC Type is one of those system fields, like SFDC ID, that's a pseudo-formula in Marketo because it has to move between Leads and Contacts.

 

As such, you can't use it in a Segmentation directly. You could, however, have another field like SFDC Type Mirror, keep that synced with SFDC Type using a Smart Campaign/Change Data Value, then segment on the mirror field.

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Tamara_Johnson
Level 2

Are you trying to ID the records that do not have a contact type labeled, are in Marketo, but not in Salesforce?

Thank you,
Tamara
Kerry-Cowell
Level 2

I'm trying to segment our database into lead records, contact records, Not synced to SFDC records.  

Kerry Cowell
SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

SFDC Type is a standard field. Can you show a screenshot of your Field Management with the word "type" in the Search box?

Kerry-Cowell
Level 2

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Kerry Cowell
Tamara_Johnson
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Check in Admin ^^ and go to Field Management

Thank you,
Tamara
SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

In Field Management, not Segmentations.

Kerry-Cowell
Level 2

Oops. Sorry I do see it there.  

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But it's still not available in my criteria for segmentation's?  

Kerry Cowell
SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

OK, upon more investigation SFDC Type is one of those system fields, like SFDC ID, that's a pseudo-formula in Marketo because it has to move between Leads and Contacts.

 

As such, you can't use it in a Segmentation directly. You could, however, have another field like SFDC Type Mirror, keep that synced with SFDC Type using a Smart Campaign/Change Data Value, then segment on the mirror field.

Kerry-Cowell
Level 2

So I would create a new Marketo only field called SFDC Type Mirror, thats a string field and then I would create a smart campaign where the smart list would have the criteria of "SFDC Type is Not empty" and my Flow Step would be Change Data Value to the new Marketo only field, with a value of customer or lead?  This new field would then be available in my segmentations?   Would I schedule this to run like once a day? 

 

Thanks for help!

Kerry Cowell
SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

The Change Data Value step would use the New Value

{{lead.SFDC Type}}

 

That's what I'm getting at by saying "mirror" — it always holds the same value as the original field.

 

Your filters should qualify

  • people created today

and

  • people whose SFDC Type value changed today
Kerry-Cowell
Level 2

Sorry for all the clarification

Like this?

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Kerry Cowell
SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

Yes, although I'd suggest you want the 2 SFDC Types to be different segments as that might be useful later.

 

Michael has another good idea, although make sure to check SFDC Contact ID first as that has priority.

Michael_Florin
Level 10

Or: How about you use SFDC Contact ID is not empty and SFDC Lead ID is not empty as criteria? These fields are available for segments.

SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

SFDC Type should already exist as a field.

Kerry-Cowell
Level 2

I only see SFDC type at the Account level?  Not lead or contact.

Kerry Cowell