Hi all. We have a database which includes family members who are using the same email address.
A few questions:
1. Can marketo cope with imported data for the same email address but with eg 3 different names?
2. Can marketo send separate emails to each record, e.g. the 3 different people at the same email address?
This doesn't impact us so much with newsletter comms, but for things like sending out unique discount codes it poses a problem as only one person is receiving their code.
Marketo, as a database, fully supports multiple records with the same Email Address. Email Address is not a unique identifier.
However, that is not the whole story because Email Address is still the only lookup key for most UI-based (as opposed to API-based) operations. Standard list imports, for example, will locate the target lead by its email address. (In contrast, API-based imports can be set to lookup on another key, like the built-in Lead ID or even a custom string field.) And a list import with 3 rows referring to a single email address will only ever update a single lead, continually updating its values. This post will shed more light on the logic.
Your example of sending separate emails is actually slightly different from the unique key vs. lookup key decision. It's principally to stop you from looking like a spammer. Marketo will only send to one email address per Send Email step. If you want to send to multiple qualified leads with the same address, then instead of calling Send Email directly, you can trigger a Request Campaign on another campaign that in turn uses Send Email. Such individual Request Campaigns can send to multiple leads that happen to have the same email address, since there is no batching-and-deduping.
Hi Sanford Whiteman I found your suggestion of using Request Campaign really interesting. How would you manage personalization in this case? Use case I was thinking of is something like householding - where one family uses the same email address. I'm thinking you'd add filters and use custom fields, or would you pre-segment groups (e.g. mother, father, children based on age) using lists?
Yep, having a Segmentation based on HouseholdRoleType is useful. One of my clients manages shared credit cards this way. You might be unlikely to send the same core email to kids (if email variants are wildly divergent, segments end up just being confusing) but you have the flexibility.
I've just inherited an instance of Marketo at my company and ran the standard "Possible Duplicates" query and I'm finding MULTIPLE people and companies using a firstname.lastname@example.org email address. We are integrated with Salesforce so I was wondering if THAT is how this could be happening? What say you?
Certainly SFDC integration can readily create leads/contacts with the same email address, yes.
@SanfordWhiteman Do you have any material that can be shared on the API based imports with multiple keys? We have an API set up with between our CRM and Marketo, but we're still only updating records based on email address. We push a number of other custom fields to Marketo, but these are constantly being changed due to the dupe email address. As you know, this causes major issues for personalization as well as reporting on results properly on an individual basis within our CRM. If we were able to layer on additional keys within the API to update the correct record, it would solve a major headache.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Truly using multiple dedupe keys isn't possible.
But you can use a single custom String field that is a concatenation of other fields and dedupe on that. Make sure to avoid delimiter collisions, for example by using the Unicode unit separator character between components.
Hi Sarah - Marketo has another workaround for both these scenarios.
a) If you want to import lists with duplicate email addresses you can ask Support to change your dedupe criteria for list import. Email address MUST be one of the criteria, but you can add one or more other criteria to it to refine the dedupe. To dedupe it must be an exact match for ALL criteria (there's not if this plus this type logic, it's not that smart)
Down side is ALL list imports from that point will use this extended criteria, so you have to be certain all your list imports follow the same scenario you've set up or you'll accidentally create a bunch of duplicate new leads. Talk to Marketo Support for more info on that since they have to set it up for you.
b) Sanford is 100% correct that the Send Email will only send to one email address. I've hit the exact same scenario as you with needing to send the unique promo codes, and instead of using the Request Campaign (which I always avoid if possible as it puts tremendous pressure on your Marketo system, plus I'm lazy and don't want to build too many campaigns!) many of us out here use this process within a single Smart Campaign flow:
Wait Step (length depends on size of list)
Send Email (add Choice - If Not Sent Email is this email)
Send Email (add Choice - If Not Sent Email is this email)
Repeat as often as you need to cover all potential dupes.
However I will second Sanford's suggestion to read the post by John Mattos he linked to on the unexpected behaviour of deliberate duplicates in the system.
If you want to import lists with duplicate email addresses you can ask Support to change your dedupe criteria for list import.
Yeah, that compound dedupe key option, while initially attractive, is one that I've seen fail miserably. Working with a client right now who's wiping their entire Marketo instance and starting over because they made the misstep of having support enable this option. (What they should've done -- and will be doing going forward! -- was use API-based imports, deduping on a single custom field, their guaranteed-unique member ID.)
It's vanishingly rare for a business to have a consistently valid compound key including Email Address (as you mentioned). Usually if they think they do, they haven't thought through all the cases.