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Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

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Michael_Guanci
Level 2

Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

Hi Marketo Community,

I have run into an issue twice in the past month around email reporting that I haven't run into in the past 6-7 months since we started using Marketo.  Last week we sent out an email, and normally in a trigger smart campaign I use caused strange error.  Usually I setup the smart campaign as follows:

Filters:

Clicks link in email trigger

add the link variant and choose the link that contains the actual asset.  This way we are only reporting and sending over to SFDC the true campaign responders to the appropriate SFDC campaign. 

Thankfully, for this email I didn't create a trigger campaign due to a time constraint and pulled a filtered version of this same smart campaign.  However, when the data came back it said over 9,000 people clicked on the link in the email.  This number jumped out because we usually have 2-3k responders for most of these asset emails.  When I submitted a ticket to support they came back saying "One thing we see in email reporting is that security or link scanner activity will register as a click in reporting, but does not indicate actual activity from the leads. Generally we can see this by looking at a lead's activity log, where a click will be registered prior to a delivery with no associated open."  I found this to be very alarming and when I followed up they said to ask on the community space as they didn't have a best practice to ensure something like this doesn't happen in the future.  Again, that response I found to be a little alarming that they don't have a workaround or best practice around an issue with their own software.

For this campaign, I did some additional filtering (some that came from support, others I came up with my own to try and narrow it down further):

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My question to all of you is, have you run into this issue before?  And if so, what additional filters have you added to your smart campaigns in order to feel confident about the "true" click data versus the security scanned "clicks?"

I am mentioning Sanford Whiteman​ as I have followed your post responses and thought you might be able to shed some light on this issue (if you have run into in the past).  Anybody else that has any insight into this issue, I would love to hear your workarounds for this.

Thank you in advance for your responses.

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Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

Re: Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

There are many existing discussion threads on this exact topic - check out this most recent one: [Shared Blog]: I Want to Believe, But: Your Email Link Clicks Aren’t Real

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Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

Re: Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

There are many existing discussion threads on this exact topic - check out this most recent one: [Shared Blog]: I Want to Believe, But: Your Email Link Clicks Aren’t Real

Michael_Guanci
Level 2

Re: Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

Thank you Dan.  One thing I failed to mention in my original thread, the link in these emails have been for pdf files.  Would the visit web page filter that is mentioned in that thread still work in this scenario? 

Sorry for adding another post around this in the community, this is what was suggested by support and CSM.  I will bookmark that discussion for future reference.

SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

Re: Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

Thank you Dan. One thing I failed to mention in my original thread, the link in these emails have been for pdf files. Would the visit web page filter that is mentioned in that thread still work in this scenario?

Put simply, no. But you shouldn't be linking directly to downloadable assets anyway, see: http://blog.teknkl.com/stop-using-direct-download-links-unless-you-like-losing-tracking/

Dan_Stevens_
Level 10 - Champion Alumni

Re: Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

Michael - I can vouch for Sanford's "direct download" script.  We use this in every email that has a PDF as the primary CTA.  It really optimizes the user experience (by requiring a single click) and still allows you to trigger off of this activity (and cookie those users who have never visited your site).

SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

Re: Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

Thanks Dan!

P.S. Michael Guanci a redirection page doesn't require the user to do anything else, it loads the asset automatically. But if you require one additional click, a button can restore the full functionality of Clicks/Clicked Email (a click on the button will result in a retroactive Clicked Email activity that is assured to be from a human, not an automated scanner).  I'll be explaining how this works in an upcoming blog post.

Grégoire_Miche2
Level 10

Re: Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

Hi Sanford,

looking forward this blog post

-Greg

Michael_Guanci
Level 2

Re: Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

Thanks Sanford, looking forward to that post as that could be a workaround that we implement when we re-design our email templates in the coming months.

Michael_Guanci
Level 2

Re: Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

I have a random follow up and not sure if anyone would know.  Do the scanner/bot clicks get attributed as a click in Sales Insight?  I would assume it would, but wanted to see if anyone may have insight on this.

This way, I can direct our sales team to either believe or not believe the data that is showing on the Sales Insight tab on their leads/contacts.

Sanford WhitemanGrégoire Michel

For the time being, I am using Dan's approach of the web visit to distinguish real clicks vs. spam clicks until a better solution comes along.  Thank you all again for the feedback and recommendations on this (I have read way too many posts in the past few weeks and my head is spinning on this issue). 

SanfordWhiteman
Level 10 - Community Moderator

Re: Smart Campaign Issue - Click link in email trigger capturing false "clicks"

No reason for the click to be filtered in MSI.