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What role is this in your organization?

Since implementing Marketo in our organization we've seen a need for a role between IT and Marketing. This person would understand basic coding and implementation of higher end campaigns in Marketo but also have a fundamental understanding of what the marketing campaign is trying to accomplish and recommend solutions.

Does anyone have a role like this in their organization? I would love to learn how this is best implemented, the skill set required and even a sample job description.

Thanks in advance!

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Dan_Stevens_
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Re: What role is this in your organization?

Ironically, many Marketing research organizations like IDC, SiriusDecisions and ITSMA suggest the modern/future marketer will need to wear multiple hats to succeed in Marketing (the article that Scott K. Wilder posted below is spot-on - and that it's not just legacy marketing skills that will be required.  So in essence, most marketers will be Marketing Technologists.  I personally have this role today in our organization: I'm Director of Digital Marketing, but also have a technical and analytics background/mindset that allows me to tackle many of the IT-related tasks that our IT department historically would assist us with.

However, it's important to note that IT still plays a critical role in all of this as they are key in evaluating, brokering, managing, and integrating the technology that Marketing has become so dependent on.  We actually published a point of view late last year, called the "CIMO Perspective: Looking at IT and Marketing through a Shared Lens".

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Anonymous
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Re: What role is this in your organization?

Samantha Shepard​ Good question. FYI. We are having a blog series on Marketing Operations Teams soon. Will keep you posted.

Anonymous
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Re: What role is this in your organization?

We don't have this position at our company, but would LOVE to!

I think the role you're referring to is sometimes called a "Marketing Technologist".

Here's a white paper from Demandbase that might explain the role of a "Marketing Technologist" better

https://www.demandbase.com/assets/Uploads/Demandbase-The-Marketing-Technologist2.pdf 

Also, if you google "marketing technologist" you'll find some good information too.

Hope that helps!

Dan_Stevens_
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Re: What role is this in your organization?

Ironically, many Marketing research organizations like IDC, SiriusDecisions and ITSMA suggest the modern/future marketer will need to wear multiple hats to succeed in Marketing (the article that Scott K. Wilder posted below is spot-on - and that it's not just legacy marketing skills that will be required.  So in essence, most marketers will be Marketing Technologists.  I personally have this role today in our organization: I'm Director of Digital Marketing, but also have a technical and analytics background/mindset that allows me to tackle many of the IT-related tasks that our IT department historically would assist us with.

However, it's important to note that IT still plays a critical role in all of this as they are key in evaluating, brokering, managing, and integrating the technology that Marketing has become so dependent on.  We actually published a point of view late last year, called the "CIMO Perspective: Looking at IT and Marketing through a Shared Lens".

Anonymous
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Dan Stevens​ FYI. I added your doc to the Community : )

The Marketing Technologist

Anonymous
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I found this post which explains Marketing Operations, which I think is different than a Marketing Technologist who tends to be the Marketing person who knows about nuts and bolts of how Google Analytics works or other technologies:

Printed without permission from here by Scott Brinker

Title: In the land of marketing, operations may become king

Last month, I attended the Marketing Operations Executive Summit — an intimate gathering of around 100 marketing operations executives — to give a talk on agile marketing.

What I left with, however, was a profound appreciation for the ascendency of the marketing operations role.

In the words of Craig Moore, a director at Sirius Decisions and the opening speaker, until recently, marketing operations was the island of misfit toys. It was definitely not the sexy side of marketing. It had little funding and little influence. If there was a metaphorical basement in the House Of Marketing, marketing operations was down there, shoveling data like coal.

But then a funny thing happened. The world got wired. Geek became chic. Customers were being won (or lost) by the experiences they had with companies on the web, with email, and via mobile devices. Data and software were moving from the back office to the front office. And the center of gravity in marketing started to shift to those who could make that machinery work.

In the land of non-technical marketers, might the marketing ops team be king?

Good operations is good marketing

According to the B2B marketing research that Craig presented, 67% of the buyer’s journey is now online. As prospects loosen the status quo, commit to change, and explore possible solutions, they do that through search engines and social networks. They form their impressions of vendors based on content and experiences delivered to them via the web and email.

Almost all of this happens before they ever talk to a salesperson.

More and more, we’re hearing stories of prospects who — by the time they actually want to talk on the phone — know more about the company’s offerings and its competitors than the sales representatives they end up talking with. That’s a challenge for another post, but according to Craig, 52% of lost sales are now being attributed to a failure of sales enablement.

To impress prospects, the content from marketing and sales has to be consistently great and the machinery that delivers it — the right content to the right people at the right time — has to function properly, almost frictionlessly. And the sophistication of that marketing machinery is continuing to grow explosively (see the marketing technology landscape for a representative sample).

So who runs all this rainmaking marketing machinery?

For many years, I’ve advocated for a role of a chief marketing technologist, who could serve at the right hand of the CMO as a kind of CTO of the marketing department. This role would be responsible for marketing technology strategy and operations. Forrester Research agreed withthe recommendation of a marketing technology office. Gartner confirmed that over 70% of high-tech organizations recently surveyed now have that role (although titles for the role run the gamut).

I still believe this role is more important than ever.

But listening to Craig frame the rapid evolution of marketing operations, it struck me thatmarketing operations may be the right home for marketing technology leadership. Either the head of marketing operations is effectively the chief marketing technologist, or a chief marketing technologist reports to him or her.

This wasn’t a particularly brilliant leap of intuition on my part — Craig came right out and said it: “The marketing operations leader becomes the CIO of marketing. Dealing with the marketing systems and the way that marketers use them is a role for marketing operations.”

The difference between a marketing technology office and a marketing operations group, however, is that marketing operations encompasses a broader collection of interrelated operational responsibilities, covering ROI, accountability, process optimization, and marketing enablement:

  • Reporting and analytics
  • Budget management
  • Planning
  • Process management
  • Best practice syndication and training
  • Marketing systems
  • Data management and quality
  • Market intelligence

Note that effectively all of these responsibilities are driven by software and data.To fulfill these responsibilities, marketing operations is hungrily assimilating technology talent into its ranks, acquiring tech-savvy people from IT and students graduating college with technical degrees. At the summit, at least 1 in 8 people I talked to were IT folks or product developers who were transitioning into marketing operations.Marketing operations also increasingly has a well-defined budget. “Marketing operations expands until economy of scale is reached, where ops full-time employees and budget areabout 5% of marketing,” Craig reported.And because marketing operations touches almost every other facet of marketing through process and enablement — as well as interfacing to sales, finance, the product organization, and IT — marketing operations is in the unique position to see across departments and silos in connecting the dots of the buyer’s journey. In the land of cross-silo blind men, marketing operations becomes the proverbial one-eyed king.This why Craig believes that marketing operations will emerge as the strategic advisor to the CMO. Functioning as a “chief of staff,” the head of marketing operations will lead high-priority initiatives, shape organizational design, identify emerging marketing trends and best practices, and prepare a strategic budget.Marketing operations leaders will be particularly well suited at the crossroads of marketing because they will be some of the few who speak all the key dialects of the Corporate Tower of Babel:

  • “project and tech” to IT
  • “balance sheet” to finance
  • “pipeline” to sales

But — and it’s a big but — Craig cautions that for marketing operations leaders to truly realize that potential, they need to have more than just marketing and technology skills. They must also bring general management skills to the table — leadership, organizational design, change management, and global operational savvy:

Marketing Operations: Marketing, Technology, Management

As I look at the above diagram, I can’t help but think of the masthead for this blog: marketing, technology, management. I’ve always thought of that intersection as the sweet spot for a chief marketing technologist. But rolling that mission under a larger umbrella of marketing operations — elevating both disciplines to something greater than their origins — is an exciting idea.

I’ve said before that he who controls the software controls the marketing. If you add on top of that control of data, control of budget accountability, control of best practices, and control of cross-silo marketing and sales visibility and coordination, marketing operations may very well may become king.

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Re: What role is this in your organization?

Hi Samantha,

I think that the solution we have is probably what you are after.  At the moment we have a Marketing Team who focus on content and campaigns, a digital team who are very skilled and carry out all website changes, updates etc. and then myself, a "Marketing Data Manager" (titles are always interesting).  The essence behind this is that I work as a lever between the teams and someone who knows the basics of code and web design but also have fundamental marketing/CRM knowledge and understanding of what the team are trying to achieve.  What this means is that if the marketing team want to complete something technical, I help them to achieve it, both saving their time and making sure it works correctly.  I can also work with our digital team to ensure that what happens in the online world works with/is available to our marketing team.

Hope this helps,

Simon

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Re: What role is this in your organization?

Thank you so much! That's so helpful!