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Remove Space in Token Default Value

We are using a "First Name" token in a welcome email to new signups on our website. Our signup form has a First Name field, but it is not required. Therefore, if someone does not put a value in that field when they signup, we will not have a first name value to include in the welcome email. Therefore we need to set a default value. We want to set our default value as [nothing] (so it would show up in an email as "Hello,"). However, when this happens, Marketo is not removing the blank space between "Hello" and the FirstName token value (so it shows up as "Hello ,"). Does anyone know how we can remove this blank space, or will we have to make-do with it?

Thanks in advance!


Andrea

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Re: Remove Space in Token Default Value

My 2 cents. Rather than making salutations on the fly, I have a specific salutation field setup. My company markets in 6 languages, so we have to take cultural differences into account, so I have to know that in Germany they need salutation + sex + Last name, but in france it's completely different.

Instead I have a single field, which then looks to see what salutation you have. If you have no salutation, then it looks for your preferred language, etc.

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So my answer is, instead of worrying about a space, instead setup the field to give you the results you want each time, regardless of whether or not a first name is in...

PS - Notice that the comma is IN the field. It isn't after the salutation, but contained within it.

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Anonymous
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Re: Remove Space in Token Default Value

No way to do this that I have found.  We just leave off the comma aftere the first name.  We think it looks better to have "Hello" rather than "Hello ,"
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Re: Remove Space in Token Default Value

I believe the blank space you are seeing comes right after Hello and before the token itself. I would use "Welcome" in place of hello and use "to the [product name]" as the default value. I can't quite figure out another way around that space but I will keep at it. I am sure there are other experts here who might be able to weigh in.
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Re: Remove Space in Token Default Value

Thanks for your insight! I like the idea of just removing the comma - it makes perfect sense and avoids any potential issues!

That is also an idea to change it to "Welcome [productname]." This might not work for us in this email blast, since this email is suppose to not look like an email blast at all, but rather a personal email from our Sales team. Having a generic opening rather than a personal opening (during which we get the chance to insert the person's first name) might make it look more like an email blast and less like a personal email.

Thanks again!


Andrea

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Re: Remove Space in Token Default Value

Try this:

Hello{{ lead.First Name:default=}},

The space if front of lead seems to do the trick 🙂 


Disregard. Breaks the token
Anonymous
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Re: Remove Space in Token Default Value

My 2 cents. Rather than making salutations on the fly, I have a specific salutation field setup. My company markets in 6 languages, so we have to take cultural differences into account, so I have to know that in Germany they need salutation + sex + Last name, but in france it's completely different.

Instead I have a single field, which then looks to see what salutation you have. If you have no salutation, then it looks for your preferred language, etc.

0EM50000000Pr2o.jpg

So my answer is, instead of worrying about a space, instead setup the field to give you the results you want each time, regardless of whether or not a first name is in...

PS - Notice that the comma is IN the field. It isn't after the salutation, but contained within it.
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Re: Remove Space in Token Default Value

I'm very interested in this as well,  but our use case is different:  rather than just salutations, we use tokens as text for example 

Thanks for attending the {{my.eventname:default=event}} this past week, and a special thank you to our sponsor {{my.eventsponsor:default=??????}}.  

Where sometimes we have a sponsor and sometimes we don't.  This is a goofy example, but we encounter several variations on this them.  The challenge of course is that the punctuation/spacing get messed up.  Any suggestions for a situation like this?

Thanks!
Anonymous
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Re: Remove Space in Token Default Value

I can only think that you'd need a separate email since you can't create a segment (for dynamic content) using a my token.  But I'll bet Adam can come up with a completely out-of-the-box solution for this :0)
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Re: Remove Space in Token Default Value

Elliott, we don't create segments basedon the my.token.  In this case we create smartlists based on a field like "Region", and then clone the event program one-for-each-region, and popluate all tokens to be specific to the event... to automate things some.  it's just that some events have a sponsor, some have a "host" we need to thank, some have follow up materials etc... and the more we can automate/the less we have to edit each email, the better. 
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Re: Remove Space in Token Default Value

I can't help you with the space. There's no such thing as a negative space. If it were me I'd just leave the default for the token blank if there was no value.  {{my.eventsponsor}}