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2019

Buried in a bunch of my Nation responses is this ginormously important guideline: whenever possible, use your Marketo LP domain in your form embed code instead of the default //app-something.marketo.com.

 

Once per week, I'd estimate, an admin solves their “forms sometimes not showing up” problem with this tiny tweak.

 

That is, if the embed code in the Marketo UI is:

 

<script src="//app-sj01.marketo.com/js/forms2/js/forms2.min.js"></script>
<form id="mktoForm_999"></form>
<script>MktoForms2.loadForm("//app-sj01.marketo.com", "123-ABC-456", 999);</script>

 

and your primary Marketo LP Domain (or a Domain Alias) is:

 

https://pages.example.com

 

then edit the embed code (after pasting on your external site) to be:

 

<script src="//pages.example.com/js/forms2/js/forms2.min.js"></script>
<form id="mktoForm_999"></form>
<script>MktoForms2.loadForm("//pages.example.com", "123-ABC-456", 999);</script>

 

The only and I mean only reason to avoid this change is if your external site requires SSL (https:) but your Marketo subscription does not yet include Marketo's SSL add-on. (Built-in browser security won't allow forms to load if you're in this unfortunate situation.)

 

In all other cases, you can and should switch over. Like, yesterday. That includes (1) when your external domain and Marketo LP domain both run over SSL (best practice in 2019); (2) when neither uses SSL (eh, it works); and (3) when the external site doesn't, but the Marketo domain does use SSL (strange but possible).

 

 

What's this about?

It's about tracking protection. If someone browses your site using Firefox with TP turned on, or with Ghostery or a similar plugin, they will not be able to load forms from app-*.marketo.com, because they can't load anything from domains matching *.marketo.*.

 

It makes sense that Munchkin (from munchkin.marketo.net) would be blocked, of course. That's what anti-tracking features/plugins are designed to do. But forms can be thrown out with the bathwater, if you will.

 

Yes, it's not really fair for all that matters! because form submissions require deliberate user action, and they don't inherently “track” anything but the Filled Out Form activity itself (assuming Munchkin cookies are blocked and all existing cookies were deleted).

 

But it's something we have to live with: Munchkin is fairly described as a tracker, Munchkin comes from the domain marketo.something and the major marketo.{tld} domains are of course all owned by Marketo. So, fair or not, privacy wins out... even if that means forms leave a blank space on your page for some end users.

 

By loading from your Marketo LP domain instead, you fully comply with the anti-tracking plugin (since you aren't dropping any new cookies or logging any more pageviews/clicks with Munchkin blocked) but also allow forms to be seen and be filled out. So do it!

 

 

Why isn't it the default?

Because of the SSL exception described above. Apparently, the Embed Code textbox in the UI and the underlying domain setup can't communicate. So the LP domain can't safely be the default, as not everyone can use it.

 

 

We're in the process of getting SSL on our Marketo LPs, but not sure if it's ready

If you have a pending order with Marketo, you can quick-check the state of affairs (for the purposes of this blog post) by loading the Forms 2.0 forms2.min.js in your browser. Here's Firefox's way of saying your custom cert isn't installed yet:

 

Here’s some information to help you sort things out when you hit an API limit.

 

First here’s a great article about API usage

http://developers.marketo.com/blog/best-practices-for-api-users-and-custom-services/

Summary of the article:

If you have multiple web services creating individual API users is recommended:

  • It is easier to understand what data each web service is being given access to and allows you to create different API roles with different permissions if necessary
  • Reporting on API call usage will be broken down by user

 

If you are not is not using the Bulk API the error is#607 “Daily quota reached” when you’ve hit the limit.

https://developers.marketo.com/rest-api/error-codes/

 

A temporary solution is to contact Marketo support and see if they will raise the limit. If you need a more permanent solution contact your Customer Success Manager and purchase more daily API calls.

 

For more info about API limits please check out

http://developers.marketo.com/rest-api/marketo-integration-best-practices/

 

If you are using the Bulk API according to the documentation the daily quota is a maximum of 500MB per day, which is shared between leads and activities. When the quota is exceeded, you cannot Create or Enqueue another job until the daily quota resets at midnight Central Time. Until that time, an error “1029, Export daily quota exceeded” is returned.  Aside from the daily quota, there is no maximum file size.

 

You can contact your Customer Success Manager and purchase a higher daily extract limit. The increase can be purchased for just a month.

Bulk Extract Additional 1GB

Bulk Extract Additional 3GB

Bulk Extract Additional 5GB

Bulk Extract Additional 10GB

 

For more info about the Bulk API check out

http://developers.marketo.com/rest-api/bulk-extract/

 

If you are using an ELT Extraction Tool and experiencing an issue you should check with the vendor since its most likely Marketo support isn't familiar with the tool you are using and won’t be able to troubleshoot it.

 

I hope this article helps you troubleshoot your issue faster. BTW, I'm not in charge of setting the limits or the prices. I'm also not in charge of what the error codes. Thanks! 

A clear symptom of broken custom JS is when you see form fields, in URL-encoded format, in the location bar after clicking Submit:

 

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You should get to know the cause on sight: an uncaught error has been thrown in a custom Forms API onSubmit function.

 

To replicate this, just set up an otherwise empty page with your form embed and this purposely bad JS:

 

MktoForms2.whenReady(function(form){
form.onSubmit(function(form){
form.oohlala(); // the property `form.oohlala` will never exist
});
});

 

This code won't throw any early errors on page load, because it doesn't have a syntax error. There's no way for the JS engine to know that form.oohlala will end up being a nonexistent method at runtime, it just adds the onSubmit listener happily onto the form.

 

However, when the form is actually being submitted, Marketo runs your custom onSubmit function. Then the browser gets serious and throws a hard TypeError, as you can see in the Dev Tools console (make sure to check off Preserve Log or you'll miss it people don't realize this behavior is always, without exception, a JavaScript error because they fail to prepare their debugging environment ahead of time).

 

Here's the runtime error:

 

5c886b174c52a500bf5f9c28_fields_in_url_console_error.png

 

But why does a JS error result in fields in the URL?

It's simple. Marketo forms use a true HTML <form> tag (this is A Very Good Thing™) and standard <input>/<select>/etc. elements under the hood.

 

The Forms API, among many other things, is responsible for transforming the standard W3C submit event into an elegant cross-domain POST to your Marketo instance.

 

In an error-free environment, the standard submit is swallowed by the Forms API's robust set of handlers. The event is triggered, but its default action that is, sending fields to the form's action (destination URL) using its method (HTTP method) is turned off. The API's non-default actions take over.

 

But when there's an error thrown within the Forms API listener stack, the form reverts to standard HTML form behavior as the default action doesn't get a chance to be turned off.

 

The Marketo <form> element doesn't have a specific action or method[1], i.e. it looks basically like so:

 

<form>
<input name="Something">
<input name="SomethingElse">
<button type="submit">Submit</button>
</form>

 

The default value for method is GET, and the default value for action is the empty string which represents the current URL. So the effective markup is:

 

<form
method="GET"
action="https://whatever.example.com/the_current_page.html">
<input name="Something">
<input name="SomethingElse">
<button type="submit">Submit</button>
</form>

 

When the button is clicked with this markup, and there's a JS error, the browser reverts to a standard GET of the current URL with form fields in the query string:

 

https://whatever.example.com/the_current_page.html?Something=a%20value&SomethingElse=another%20value

 

Whenever you see this behavior in your browser, realize your forms aren't working at all (even though the form seemingly "posts" somewhere). So fix em!

 

 

 


Notes

[1] Nor does the <button> have the newfangled formaction or formmethod attributes, which would be used if present.

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